David Novros: What do you think about this little craquelure here?
CM-U: Well, I think it is something that should be minimized. I think it's – again, it's a question of lifting – breaking the plane.
David Novros: There's another one here.
CM-U: Right. I don't think it's – I'm more accepting of this (gestures toward area of crackle)…
David Novros: Yes.
CM-U: …because I think it's kind of part of the life of the picture.
David Novros: Yeah, I feel the same way. I also – but I also
feel that something like this is something that falls into the realm of
David Novros: …in the sense that this is something people know about…
CM-U: That's exactly right…
David Novros: If it were a traditional painting, it wouldn't be a
hard thing to do. But if you look at this painting, this panel,
closely, you see that there is a cold blue with a warm blue over it.
Can you see that? Come over here in this light, and you can see. See
how here it's cold?
CM-U: Oh, yeah.
David Novros: And then it gets warm? That's a function of both
the – that's painted that way because the latter coat with the Damar in
it was a warmer red.
David Novros: Okay. So when you would do this, you'd try to find out which was the, you know, the cold, cold, warm, warm.
CM-U: Well, that will help…
David Novros: Yeah.
CM-U: …because that helps hide something when…
David Novros: Exactly.
CM-U: …you have that variation.
David Novros: That's exactly the point I'm making. In a funny
way, this would have been a lot easier, you know, if – this'd be a lot
easier because it has the texture. If this were like a Newman or
something, and it was really flat, then it would be problematic, you
know. But because, I think, you can hide the, the inpainting with the
gesture if you are consistent with the direction of the paint, you know.
CM-U: I think that's right. I agree with you.
David Novros: Somebody said the other day, "God, you know, the
real problem is that nobody paints figuratively anymore. In the old
days, you could really hide that stuff, you know." Put it in with a
face, you know. That kind of thing. When…
CM-U: It's here.
David Novros: It's here. Right.
CM-U: It's here.